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Info on August Kreis – Another “winner” of the Aryan Nations

Posted in Christianity, cults, Israel, Israeli, racism, Religion with tags , , , on March 27, 2009 by Michael Burks

The more I read about the Aryan Nations I laugh. I don’t see “white power”. Instead, I see white trash at its finest! I found this on the SPLC website, http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=234. I am going to cut and paste certain sections and write my two cents in bold.

Kreis reportedly sells wooden wares as well as some edible goods, although for years — antigovernment sentiments aside — a steady cash flow has come from the welfare office (wife Karley has been the recipient as of late).

Why doesn’t that shock me that he lived on welfare?

He puffs a lot of smoke, and tries to get a lot of people excited and worried about him,” adds Joe Wolf, another local pastor. “Truth be told, he’s hardly got any following around here.”

LOL, really? Look at the guy for God’s sake. He makes Randy Gray look sane!

During the past five years, numerous ministers involved in Potter County United have reported threats and intimidation at the hands of Kreis. “We will be watching you,” Kreis warned in an e-mail to all of the ministers, attaching a picture of himself with a gun. “You will pay the ultimate price.”

Yes sir, what a good way to get people on your side. Can we say, “crazy”?

Kreis didn’t always say such things publicly. After dropping out of high school and spending time on a naval vessel off the coast of Vietnam, he returned to his hometown of Newark, N.J., and was soon working for a Jewish developer.

A high school dropout? What other Aryan Nations member dropped out of high school… Let me think… Randy Gray… lol

Kreis was fired from his job in 1981, after holding Klan meetings “in a complex that was 90 percent Jewish and owned by a Jew.” He then moved around with his wife and three children, finding a home near Easton, Pa., until unpaid utility bills caught up with him. His water was shut off, his house condemned, and he was forced to move to a plot bought by his brother.

A bum that didn’t pay bills. What other Aryan Nations member is begging for money for a laywer. Nevermind, just named him above lol.

Eventually Kreis’ first marriage broke up, and in his mid-30s he wedded a teenager named Karley. He took custody of the children whom he’d eventually be barred from seeing, and in the early 1990s moved to his current residence in Ulysses.

First marriage failed, what a shock… Married a teen – odd…

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Good read about the Ephraimite myth that CI and British Israel nuts believe and follow

Posted in Christianity, cults, Hate, Israel, Israeli, Jewish History, racism, Religion with tags , , , on March 27, 2009 by Michael Burks

http://messianicdefenseleague.com/ephraimite1.aspx

Genesis 12:3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

Genesis 26:3 Sojourn in this land, and I will be with thee, and will bless thee; for unto thee, and unto thy seed, I will give all these countries, and I will perform the oath which I sware unto Abraham thy father;

Genesis 28:3 And God Almighty bless thee, and make thee fruitful, and multiply thee, that thou mayest be a multitude of people;

G-d blessed Avraham, Itzak, and Yakov and their seed after them. Ever since that blessing was given it has provoked jealousy amongst all other people. And why not… who would not want to be blessed of the most high G-d?

Sometimes this jealousy is expressed in genocidal hatred as in the case of Haman. Sometime this jealousy is expressed in replacement as in the Christian concept of replacement theology, and sometimes this jealousy is expressed in both as in the Third Reich. In any event, this jealousy seldom yields the desired response and usually ends in the cursing of the one who wants to steal the blessing.

The Epraimite Deception is such a fruit of jealousy. It is the doctrine that the gentiles are the lost tribes of Israel and that they are in some way or fashion inheritors of the blessings upon Avraham, Itzak, and Yakov. As such it tickles the ears of gentile believers in Messiah with the promise that they are really heirs to the promises of the patriarch, not after the spirit but after the flesh.

So what is the problem with gentiles think they might be part of the lost tribes of Israel?

Rabbi Shaul (Paul) in Romans 11 made it clear that the natural branch of the olive tree which is Israel must be regrafted by faith into Israel just as the branch which is wild by nature must be grafted in.

Romans 11:24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?

The subtle deception of the Epraimite error lies in the idea that the gentiles are not wild by nature and thus by implication that they do not need to be grafted in It is a false pride that is empowered by the idea that gentiles are really internal to Israel after the flesh and not external to the promises by nature. Perhsps this is a product of the Messianic movement itself. For many years, the gentiles have wanted an equal position within this movement. Messianic organizations wanting to protect the movement from hoards of gentiles pretending to be Jews developed rules which restricted non-Jews from being recognized as Messianic Rabbis and in some cases from having any leadership role at all. This is itself an error since in Messiah there is neither Jew nor Gentile. But it is easy to see how such an error developed. The Antimissionary organizations routinely deny the Jewish ethnicity of Messianic Jews, claiming that they are either gentiles pretending to be Jews or Jews who were never educated in Judaism. As a defense against Messianic Gentiles pretending to be Jews and effectively corrupting our witness with the Jewish community, the leading Messianic Jewish organizations developed guidelines to ensure that the leadership of the community would be ethnically Jewish.

Such guidelines were considered as unfair by Gentiles who wanted to embrace the Jewish roots of their faith. As a result the enemy has entered into a situation developed from fleshly pride to create an even worse false pride amongst the Messianic Gentiles. The answer to this dilemma can only come from both Jew and Gentile recognizing their identity is not in the flesh but in Messiah through whom all the families of the earth is blessed. For more on this please read my article on Our True Identity.

In my opinion, the true origin of the Ephraimite Error does not lie in Messianic Gentiles, however. This concept is probably as old as Israel itself and is a demonic deception which has been looking for a home for several thousand years. Now please, if you are part of this movement I prayerfully ask you to read this next section on the history of the Ephraimite Error and consider the source and evolution of this concept.

The History of the Ephraimite Error

The Ephraimite movement is a derivation of the Millerite theology found in the various factions of the Adventist and Church of God sects throughout the United States. While a direct link between the modern Two House teachers and the Millerites is difficult to establish the doctrinal heritage is a direct match with those of Herbert W. Armstong and other British Israelists. Batya Wooten, herself, claims estensive study of other books in order to prove her Israelite heritage For more information on the history of the Millerites and British Israelism, a spiritual descendancy chart, and a quote for quote match, click here.

Why is this a Deception?


Romans 11 says plainly that the natural branch of the olive tree is Judah and that they must be regrafted into Israel just as the wild olive branch is grafted in. If the Gentiles are a wild olive branch then they can not be part of the NATURAL olive branch. The Two-House teachers routinely say that Ephraim is the white anglo-saxons of Europe and North America. This very statement points out the racism that is inherant in this doctrine. What of the negorid peoples, and even more critical: What of the Orientals? The promise made to Avraham was that through his seed (Messiah) all the families of the earth would be blessed. Therefore the wild olive branch which is grafted into Israel is those of all the families of the earth who come by faith to Messiah.

This inherently racist doctrine decieves white anglo-saxons into believing they are Israel after the flesh. But the flesh profiteth nothing. There is no inherant salvation in being a Jew any more than their is hope in being an “Ephraimite”. The only way to life is through faith in the Messiah.

Yakov was renamed by G-d to Israel because of the faith he expressed at Peniel. Throughout the rest of his life whenever he is walking in the flesh the old name Yakov (Surplanter) is used. Whenever Yakov is walking in faith the name Yisrael (fights with G-d) is used. When the 10 northern tribes broke away from Judah and formed their own commonwealth, they chose to break from the Kingly line which G-d has established in Moshiach. A line which eventually would produce Messiah. For this rebellion they were taken out of Israel and lost to the faith. The subtle deception of the Ephraimite movement is that you can rebel against G-d and his promise that the scepter will not depart from Judah and still receive the blessing of G-d. Foolish gentiles, why would you want to identify yourself with rebellion and sin instead of recognizing the blessing which comes from joining yourself to Messiah.

Verses out of Context


Like many deceptive doctrines, these self-proclaimed “Ephraimites” search the scriptures for verses they can take out of context and strain to prove their point.

“lost sheep of Israel”
When Y’shua said he has come for the lost Sheep of Israel did he then go to Dublin, or to York, to to any place other than Yerushalaiyim (Jerusalem). This shows that the lost sheep of Israel are the Jewish people. Claims that the Jews are not Israel are founded in AntiSemitism for Yakov who is the father of all the tribes was renamed to Yisrael by G-d, himself!

“Not of this fold”
John 10:16
And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.

British Israelists interpret this verse as refering to them by interpreting the reference to the other sheep as Ephraim. There are several problems with this interpretation. First, if the Lost Sheep of Israel are the lost tribes and not Judah then how can the “other” sheep also be those tribes? The two interpretations cancel each other out. a foundational rule of exegesis (Biblical interpretation) is any interpretation which creates self contradiction is an erroneous interpretation. The Two-House teachers also use this verse to support the necessity of Ephraim and Judah being joined again as one people. However, if the sheep of the other fold are not the Lost Tribes then they must be the Gentiles. This is consistent with Romans 11 and the idea that the natural branch (Judah) and the wild olive branch (the Gentiles) have been joined as the Assembly (Church) of believers.

Word Games
A key component in understanding the doctrines of Anglo-Israelism and the Ephraimite Error is the concept of Word Games… the idea that common words in the Gaelic or other paleo-british languages have an Israeli origin. Common examples of this are:

Brit-Ish = Covenant of Man

Denmark, Danube, Danzig = mark the migration of the tribe of Dan

Saxon = Saac-Son = Sons of Issac

Scholars easily dispute such claims from multiple sources. First and foremost is the objection that these are one or two syllable words… the mechanics of human speech liit the number of phonemes that are available to human language. One could just as easily argue that:

Samarai = Samaritans

And that the lost tribes were taken to Japan.

Secondly, the etymology (origins) of these words is easily traceable to known cultural roots which do not lead to Israel.

Finally the lost tribes are repeatedly said in scripture to have been scattered amongst peoples of Asia Minor, there is no record in scripture or history to place them in north-western Europe.

2 Kings 17:23 Until the LORD removed Israel out of his sight, as he had said by all his servants the prophets. So was Israel carried away out of their own land to Assyria unto this day.

The real history of the people groups of Northwest Europe does derive some of them from the middle east but not from Israel.

How do Christian Identity nuts explain this?

Posted in Christianity, cults, Hate, Israel, Israeli, Jewish History, racism with tags , , , on March 27, 2009 by Michael Burks

http://jesusisajew.org/Saint_Paul_was_a_Jew.php

I was reading some “sermons” last night after getting home from a night out with friends. Christian Identity people claim that Paul(Saul) was Aryan like they do with Jewish. One problem, Paul lived a Jewish life and even admitted he himself was Jewish –

“Saint Paul” was a Lifelong Jew
The man known as “St. Paul” was first called Saul (pronounced Sha’ul in Hebrew), and that is the name used in this article. He was called Saul in Acts 7:58, Acts 8:1, and Acts 9:1. His first encounter with Yeshua (“Jesus”) was in Acts 9:3-6, where the Lord addressed him as Saul. This episode is also told in Acts 22:7 and Acts 26:14, and in both of those the Lord also addressed him as Saul. When speaking about him to Ananias in a vision, the Lord said he was called “Saul of Tarsus” (Acts 9:11). It was not until Acts 13:9 that he was referred to as “Saul who was also known as Paul.” To this day, it is not unusual for Jews in the diaspora to have two names. One is used by family or other Jews, the second is how they are known by the larger society around them. Unlike the case of Jacob who became Israel, Saul’s name was never changed by God.

Note – Saul was and still is, a common name among Jewish males, not Aryans.

In Phil 3:5 Saul called himself a “Hebrew of Hebrews,” probably meaning “I speak Hebrew and I came from Hebrew-speaking parents.” His father was a Pharisee (Acts 23:6). In his letter to the believers in Philippi, Saul described himself as having been circumcised as an infant on the eighth day (Phil 3:5). Obviously his Jewish parents did this in observance of the Torah commandment (Lev 12:2-3). He further confirmed this by stating that he is of the people Israel and he went on to cite his tribal descent (Benjamin), which is something few Jews can do today. We see the same in Romans 11:1, where Saul wrote that he was, “an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.”

Note – As much as CI nuts lie, Hebrew has never been the speech of Aryan people.

As a believer in Yeshua, Saul continued to be a Jew. When he first came to faith he took a mikvah (Acts 9:18) and taught in the Synagogues of Damascus (Acts 9:20). Indeed, he initially argued with the Hellenists (Acts 9:29). Saul continued to worship with other Jews. The book of Acts contains at least ten other references to his ongoing Synagogue attendance (13:5, 13:14, 13:44, 14:1, 17:1-2, 17:10, 17:17, 18:4, 18:19, 19:8). Saul self-identified as a Jew (Gal 2:15), and he considered other Jewish believers to be Jewish (Gal 2:13). For instance, he considered Kefa (Peter) to be Jewish (Gal 2:14).

Note – Synagogues have always been the place of worship for the Jewish people.

The Macedonians recognized that Saul was Jewish (Acts 16:20-21) and the Ephesians recognized his fellow believers to be Jews (Acts 19:34). He called the people Israel his brethren and countrymen (Rom 9:3-4). His travelling companions, friends, and hosts were Jewish (Acts 4:3615:22, 16:1, 18:2-3, 18:24, 19:3422:12).

Note – Funny how the non-Jews clearly recognized Paul as Jewish. If Hebrews were white as CI nuts claim, how could they have noticed?

I could go on, but I think you get my point. I wonder why I’m wasting so much time with these CI nuts? Seriously, anyone with half a brain know they are liars and servants of Satan.

Hoax – Blood libel accusations against Jews

Posted in Christianity, cults, Hate, Israel, Israeli, Jewish History, News, racism, Religion, Uncategorized with tags , , on March 27, 2009 by Michael Burks

http://www.religioustolerance.org/jud_blib2.htm

In 1144 CE, an unfounded rumor began in eastern England, that Jews had kidnapped a Christian child, tied him to a cross, stabbed his head to simulate Jesus’ crown of thorns, killed him, drained his body completely of blood, and mixed the blood into matzos (unleavened bread) at time of Passover. The rumor was started by a former Jew, Theobald, who had become a Christian monk. He said that Jewish representatives gathered each year in Narbonne, France. They decided in which city a Christian child would be sacrificed.

The boy involved in the year 1144 hoax became known as St. William of Norwich. Many people made pilgrimages to his tomb and claimed that miracles had resulted from appeals to St. William. The myth shows a complete lack of understanding of mainline Judaism. Aside from the prohibition of killing innocent persons, the Torah specifically forbids the drinking or eating of any form of blood in any quantity. However, reality never has had much of an impact on blood libel myths. This rumor lasted for many centuries; even today it has not completely disappeared. 1

Pope Innocent IV ordered a study in 1247 CE. His investigators found that the myth was a Christian invention used to justify persecution of the Jews. At least 4 other popes subsequently vindicated the Jews. However, the accusations, trials and executions continued. In 1817, Czar Alexander I of Russia declared that the blood libel was a myth. Even that did not stop the accusations against Jews in that country.

“Holy shrines were erected to honor innocent Christian victims, and well into the twentieth century, churches throughout Europe displayed knives and other instruments that Jews purportedly used for these rituals. Caricatures of hunchbacked Jews with horns and fangs were depicted in works of art and carved into stone decorating bridges. Proclaimed by parish priests to be the gospel truth, each recurrence of the blood libel charge added to its credence, thus prompting yet more accusations. This vicious cycle continued to spiral.” 7

Nicholl reports that “there are 150 recorded cases of the charge of ritual murder, and many led to massacres of the Jews of the place.2

Some of the incidents were:

bullet 1144 CE: Jews in Norwich, England were accused of the ritual murder. This is believed to be the first recorded case of the “blood libel” myth. Jewish leaders in the area were executed.
bullet 1171: Jews in Blois, France were accused of ritual murder. All of the Jews in that town (34 men, 16 or 17 women) were “dragged to a wooden tower where they were given the option of baptism or death. None chose the former.” 7 They were burned alive. A second source says that 31 were killed.
bullet 1181: More accusations at Bury, St. Edmund, England
bullet 1181: Three Christian boys disappeared after playing on a frozen river in Vienna, Austrai.  Several “witnesses” swore that Jews had slaughtered the boys. Three hundred Jews were burned at the stake. After the spring thaw, the bodies of the boys were recovered. They had drowned, and were otherwise unharmed. 7
bullet 1183: More accusations in Bristol, England
bullet 1192: More accusations in Winchester, England
bullet 1199: More accusations and Jewish executions in Erfurt, Bischofsheim.
bullet 1235: More accusations and Jewish executions in Lauda, Fulda.
bullet 1244: London Jews were accused of ritual murder and fined heavily.
bullet 1250: Jews in Saragossa, Spain, were accused of ritually killing a child, San Domenichino de Val.
bullet 1255: The body of a little boy, Hugh, was found in a cesspool near the house of a Jew in Lincoln, England. The latter was tortured, confessed that he had engaged in ritual murder, dragged through the streets, and finally hung. 100 Jews were transported to London and charged with ritual murder. One was acquitted; 2 were pardoned; the rest were hanged, either with or without a trial. One source states that 19 Jews were hung without benefit of trial.
bullet 1263: A Dominican monk published a theory that God had inflicted Jews with a terrible disease because they had murdeed Yeshua. He reasoned that the only cure was to kill an innocent Christian child and consume its blood.
bullet 1283-5: Following a series of ritual murder charges, 10 Jews were murdered by a mob in Mainz; 26 were executed in Bacharach, 40 in Oberwellil, and 180 in Munich.
bullet 1431: After ritual murder charges, several Jewish communities were destroyed in southern Germany: Ravensburg, Uberlingen and Lindau. 7
bullet 1451: Pope Nicholas V appointed John of Capistrano to organize the Inquisition of the Jews. John repeated the old charges of ritual murder and host desecration.
bullet 1475: A few days before Easter, Samuel, a Jew in Trent, Italy, found the body of a Christian infant named Simon. He had apparently drowned in a nearby river. A number of Jews were arrested and tortured. All confessed to murdering the infant. They were burned at the stake. Stories spread of miraculous cures which were believed to have been caused by contacting Simon’s bones. Simon was canonized as a holy martyr by Pope Gregory XIII. Simon’s beatification was reversed in 1965. 7
bullet 1492: Tomas de Torquemada, the Grand Inquisitor of the Spanish Inquisition engineered a blood libel case in La Guardia, Spain. Jews who had converted to Christianity were accused and tortured. They confessed to helping the chief rabbi to abuse and crucify a Christian child. 7
bullet 1541: John Eck, a Roman Catholic writer, wrote a pamphlet  “Refutation of a Jewish Book.” He repeated the ritual murder and host desecration myths.
bullet 1840: An elderly Italian monk-priest, Padre Tommaso, and his servant disappeared in Damascus, Syria, after having visited the Jewish quarter in the city.  A French consol to the Ottoman Empire, Ratti-Menton, promoted a groundless theory of ritual murder that the local Muslim government largely accepted. Jewish leaders were arrested and tortured. Sixty of their children were held hostage and starved to pressure their parents into confessing. One source said that four adults died from the mistreatment; another states that two died and some were permanently disabled. 7 Most of the rest confessed involvement in a ritual murder. 3 Yhe consul then requested permission from the Syrian government to murder the rest of his suspects. As a result of widespread protests from Sir Moses, Montefiore, Adolphe Cremieux, Solomon Munk, and others, the lives of the survivors were spared.

This event introduced the blood libel myth to the Arab world, where it is still circulating. It also led to an organized effort by Jews in Europe and the Middle East to protect themselves. This affair spurred early Zionist writers like Hess to promote the Zionist cause. 13,14

bullet 1853: Two Jews of Saratov, Russia, were convicted of ritually murdering two Christian children. 7
bullet 1870’s: “With the rise of the modern antisemitic movement in the late 1870s, the traditional blood accusation merged easily with the new scientific racial arguments, serving as a lowest common denominator to unite its secular (and often anti-Christian), Catholic, and Protestant members.3 Roman Catholic Bishop Martin of Pederborn, Germany, wrote that Jews ritually murdered Christian children.
bullet 1881: A Roman Catholic journal, Civilta Cattolica, started a series of articles which attempted to prove that ritual murder was an integral element of the Jewish religion. They argued that the ritual murders occurred at Purim rather than Passover. “It is in vain that Jews seek to slough off the weight of argument against them: the mystery has become known to all.” (Not quite all. Historians have rejected the stories of blood libel as myth.) 3
bullet 1911-3: The Beilis case, an accusation of ritual murder of a boy by the name of Andriusha  Yustchinsky, surfaced in Kiev, Russia. At first, his mother looked like a possible suspect. Although the boy had disappeared eight days before his body was found, she had not notified the police. She showed no emotion when her son’s body was discovered. Upon his death, she inherited 500 rubles, which had been held in trust. Suspicion later fell on Vera Tchebiraik who was involved with a gang of thieves. Andriusha was a schoolmate of her son, and would often stay overnight in her home. The boy might have heard about or seen some criminal act by the gang and been murdered to assure his silence. However, this was a time of great unrest in the country, and widespread anti-Jewish sentiment. Soon, the blood libel myth surfaced.  “Mendel Beilis was a Jew arrested in 1911 by the Czarist secret police in Kiev and accused of ritually murdering a Christian boy to use his blood in baking matzoh. He was jailed for almost two and one-half years, under horrible conditions, while awaiting trial. In 1913, after a dramatic trial, he was [unanimously] acquitted by an all Christian jury.6,7,8,12
bullet 1920s: Mendel Beilis emigrated to the U.S. and wrote his autobiography, called “The Story of My Sufferings.6
bullet 1960s: Bernard Malamud wrote a novel called “The Fixer.” He received both a Pulitzer Prize and the National Book Award. Although he claimed that this was an original story, some analysts believe that Malamud took most of the events and details from Beilis’ book. 6
bullet 1930’s +: Hitler re-used the blood-libel myth as justification for the Holocaust. The Nazi periodical, Der Stürmer, often published special issues devoted to allegations of ritual murder by Jews. Hitler had asked that a propaganda film be made of the 1840 Damascus case. World War II ended before it could be made.
bullet 2000’s: The Jewish blood-libel myth continues to circulate among many Muslim countries. Egyptian film producer is making a movie about the Syrian case in 1840, called “The Matzoh of Zion.” Director Albert Maysles is making a film about the Beilis case.
bullet 2007: Ariel Toaff, an Israeli historian of Italian origin, published a book that has revived the blood libel story. It is titled: “Bloody Passovers: The Jews of Europe and Ritual Murders.” Toaff suggests that several crucifixions of Christian children occurred from 1100 to about 1500 CE. He wrote:

“My research shows that in the Middle Ages, a group of fundamentalist Jews did not respect the biblical prohibition and used blood for healing. It is just one group of Jews, who belonged to the communities that suffered the severest persecution during the Crusades. From this trauma came a passion for revenge that in some cases led to responses, among them ritual murder of Christian children.”

He bases his book on the testimony given under torture. Twelve of Italy’s chief rabbis issued a press release stating:

“It is totally inappropriate to utilize declarations extorted under torture centuries ago to reconstruct bizarre and devious historical theses. … The only blood spilled in these stories was that of so many innocent Jews, massacred on account of unjust and infamous accusations.”

Sergio Luzzatto, in an article in the Corriere della Serra wrote:

“Even if the author should manage to prove that a deviant sect existed for centuries…clearly it could never be identified as a Jewish group, or as part of a Jewish community. This would be comparable to saying that the rabbis who were present at [Iranian President Mahmoud] Ahmadinejad’s Holocaust Denial Conference in Teheran represent mainstream Judaism.” 15

References:

  1. M.I. Dimont, “Jews, God and History,” Mentor Books, Revised edition, (1994), Page 235. You can buy this book from Amazon.com bookstore
  2. William Nichol, “Christian Antisemitism: A History of Hate,” Aronson, (1995).
  3. Jonathan Frankel, “‘Ritual Murder’ in the Modern Era: The Damascus Affair of 1840,” Jewish Social Studies Volume 3, Number 2, at: http://www.indiana.edu/~iupress/journals/jss-art3.html#r4
  4. Wildwoman, at: http://www.loop.com/~bramble/
  5. Edward Vanhoutte, “Importance and unimportance of the Jews of Belgium from the Middle Ages to the Enlightenment,” at: http://pcger17.uia.ac.be/JEWS.html
  6. Family of Mendel Beilis: A martyr for his people,” at: http://www.mendelbeilis.com/
  7. Shari Schwartz, “Editor’s Preface: The Making of a Martyr,” at: http://www.shemayisrael.co.il/
  8. A boy is murdered,” at: http://www.shemayisrael.co.il/
  9. Salo W. Baron, “The Russian Jew under Tsars and Soviets
  10. S. M. Dubnow, “History of the Jews in Russia and Poland
  11. Alexander B. Tager, “The Decay of Czarism: The Beilis Trial
  12. A government blood libel: The Beilis affair,” The history of Jews in Russia, (1995). at: http://www.friends-partners.org/
  13. Ronald Florence, “Blood Libel : The Damascus Affair of 1840,” University of Wisconsin Press, (2004). Read reviews or order this book  
  14. Jonathan Frankel, “The Damascus Affair : ‘Ritual Murder’, Politics, and the Jews in 1840,” Cambridge University Press, (1997). Read reviews or order this book
  15. Historian gives credence to blood libel,” The Jerusalem Post, 2007-FEB-07, at: http://www.jpost.com/

Hoax – Protocols of the Elders of Zion

Posted in cults, Hate, Israel, Israeli, Jewish History, News, racism, Religion, Uncategorized, World News with tags , , on March 27, 2009 by Michael Burks

Taken from SkepDic.com

The only statement I care to make about the Protocols is that they fit in with what is going on. They are sixteen years old, and they have fitted the world situation up to this time. They fit it now.” –Henry Ford, 2-17-21, whose newspaper, the Dearborn Independent, cited the Protocols as evidence of an alleged Jewish threat until at least 1927

“To what extent the whole existence of this people is based on a continuous lie is shown incomparably by the Protocols of the Wise Men of Zion….” —Adolph Hitler, Mein Kampf

The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is a forgery made in Russia for the Okhrana (secret police), which blames the Jews for the country’s ills. It was first privately printed in 1897 and was made public in 1905. It is copied from a nineteenth century novel (Biarritz, 1868) and claims that a secret Jewish cabal is plotting to take over the world.

The basic story was composed by a  German novelist and anti-Semite named Hermann Goedsche who used the pseudonym of Sir John Retcliffe. Goedsche stole the main story from another writer, Maurice Joly, whose “Dialogues in Hell Between Machiavelli and Montesquieu” (1864) involved a Hellish plot aimed at opposing Napoleon III. Goedsche’s original contribution consists mainly of introducing Jews to do the plotting to take over the world.

The Russians used big chunks of a Russian translation of Goedsche’s novel, published it separately as the Protocols, and claimed they were authentic. Their purpose was political: to strengthen the czar Nicholas II’s position by exposing his opponents as allies with those who were part of a massive conspiracy to take over the world. Thus, the Protocols are a forgery of a plagiarized fiction.

The Protocols were exposed as a forgery in 1921 by Philip Grave, a correspondent for the London Times; by  Herman Bernstein in The Truth About “The Protocols of Zion”: A Complete Exposure, reprinted with introduction by Norman Cohn (Ktav Publishing House, New York,1971); and Lucien Wolf in The Jewish Bogey and the Forged Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion (London : Press Committee of the Jewish Board of Deputies,1920).

The Protocols were published in a Michigan newspaper owned by Henry Ford. Even after they were exposed as a forgery, Ford’s paper continued to cite the document. Adolf Hitler later used the Protocols to help justify his attempt to exterminate Jews during World War II.

The Protocols hoax continues to fool people and is still cited by certain individuals and groups as the cause of all their woes.

Maybe reading the Bible would help instead of quoting cult teaching preachers!

Posted in Arabs, Christianity, Hate, Israel, Israeli, Jewish History, racism, Religion, Uncategorized with tags , , , on March 26, 2009 by Michael Burks

I am about to rip this Christian Identity reject to shreds. I took this from a Aryan Nations forum. All of my two cents will be in bold.

1.) He who denies Jesus Christ is a liar.
2.) The Anti-Christ is anyone (I John 2:18 tells us that there are many Anti-Christs, not just one) who denies BOTH the Father and the Son.
3.) Those who do not confess Jesus is God come in the flesh possess the spirit of Anti-Christ.
4.) Anti-Christ was already in the world as John wrote this letter.

Children of Christ, is it not obvious who these people are? Is it not obvious what religion it is that has denied BOTH the Father and the Son?

The Identity reject is of course, pointing out Jews. He is right by saying those who reject Christ are anti-Christ. However, the verse does not mean “Jews” only. Over 1 billion Muslims reject Christ. Over 1 billion Chinese atheists reject Christ and so forth. I think you get my point. The verses above in no way confirm Jews are actual “children of Satan”.

For over two thousand years the Jews have denied that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. They still deny it today. All of the anti-Gibson rhetoric about the movie, “The Passion of the Christ,” has come from only one group of people: the Jews and their accomplices. They hate Jesus Christ and they hate the New Testament, which is the doctrine of Jesus Christ.

But you say that you have been taught that Jesus was a Jew? Please show us where the Scriptures say He was a Jew! This is just another Pharisaic lie that the rabbis tell in order to deceive you. The Scriptures tell us that the Man of Sin will deceive all except the elect. In essence, this means the whole world except for those very few who were not fooled.

Jews have NOT always rejected Jesus. Jesus and His disciples were Jews as were the first 15 bishops of the early Christian Church, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Christians.

“I know the blasphemy of them that which say they are Jews, and are not, but are of the synagogue of Satan.” — Rev. 2:9.

“Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan who say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.” — Rev. 3:9.

LOL, you just proved that Jews were God’s chosen people! God was simply warning about Jews who rejected Him much like those who rejected Christ during His lifetime. The same could be said about lying “Christians” like yourself. Yes, God knows the difference between Jews who serve Him and those who don’t. Thanks for pointing that out, lol.

“I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Judahites, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.” The Jews, who are in reality, Ioudaikos, not Ioudaios (impostors, not real), have been pretending to be Israelites since the Jewish Dispersion of 70 A.D.

Here we see the beginning of the great deception that the religion of Judaism has performed for the last two thousand years of history. Judaism was not practiced by the Israelites. It was only practiced by the followers of the scribes and Pharisees. And the Pharisees were not ‘Ioudas’, Judah. They were, rather, ‘Ioudaikos’, only the resemblance of Judah. (John 8:44). In fact, the religion called Judaism has never been practiced by the House of Israel because the House of Israel was already scattered, from the Assyrian captivity starting in 745 B.C., into the “wilderness” of Europe and Asia Minor. The only exception to this rule has been when non-Jews convert to Judaism. Note well that the Jews declare descent through the mother. In contradistinction, the Old Testament and the New Testament declare descent only through the father. Read Matthew, Chapter 1 and Luke, Chapter 3 if you doubt this.

LOL, the old “Lost Sheep of Israel” myth. Sorry, the Bible never states Israel was lost. Here is what the Bible actually says –  Jeremiah 50:33 – Thus saith the LORD of hosts; The children of Israel and the children of Judah were oppressed together: and all that took them captives held them fast; they refused to let them go.” As you can tell, the Bible is clear Israel was living among the Southern Tribes. Those who didn’t formed the Jewish settlements around modern day Iran and Iraq.

Jesus was not a Jew by religion because He did not practice their religion, which, by the way, is NOT the religion of Moses. Judaism is the religion of the scribes and Pharisees. The Pharisees, seeing an opportunity to kill Jesus and claim His inheritance of the Kingdom for themselves, did all in their power to eliminate Him from the scene. In the parable of the traitorous husbandmen (Matt. 33-40), Jesus tells them that they are these same traitors who say of Jesus: “This is the heir; come, let us kill him and seize on his inheritance.”

Wow, tons of things wrong with this above statement. Jesus was Jewish, lol below is proof –

 

Yeshua was Born a Jew

Yeshua is a real, historical person, born in the Land of Israel, during the Roman occupation, in approximately the year 3 BCE. However, at the time His name was actually pronounced, “Yeshua,” and that is the name used in this article.

That Yeshua was born Jewish is one of the least contested truths of the Bible. The very first verse of the New Covenant reads: The book of the genealogy of Messiah Yeshua (“Jesus Christ”), the son of David, the son of Abraham (Matt. 1:1). Who were Abraham and David?

Abraham was the first Hebrew. God changed his name from Abram (Gen. 17:5). In Gen. 14:13 he is called Abram the Hebrew. So we can see that Yeshua (Jesus) is descended from “Abram the Hebrew.” Even to this day, Jews are also called “Hebrews”, and the language of the Jews is “Hebrew.”

Abraham and his descendants were given the unconditional covenant of the Promised Land (Gen. 17:8) and the covenant of circumcision (Gen. 17:10). Abraham is the father of the Jews (Acts 3:12-25). Isaac was his son and Jacob was his grandson (Matt. 1:2). Thus, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob are known as the Patriarchs, the fathers of the Jews.

Jacob’s name was changed by God to “Israel” (Gen. 35:10-12) and he had twelve sons (Gen. 35:23-26) from whom come the Twelve Tribes of Israel. All of their descendants are known collectively throughout the Bible as the Children of Israel (Ex. 1:6-7).

One of those twelve sons was Judah (Gen. 35:23, Matt. 1:2) and it is from his name that we get the word ‘Jew’. Although Yehudah (Judah) was only one of the twelve, by 700 BCE, because of the course of Israel’s history, the word Yehudee (Jew) came to mean any person descended from Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob (Jer. 34:9). So, for instance, Saul haShaliach (the Apostle Paul) was of the tribe of Benjamin (Romans 11:1) yet he self-identified as a Jew (Acts 22:3).

Nevertheless, according to the Bible, the Messiah must be descended from the tribe of Judah (Gen. 49:10) as King David was (1Sam. 17:12, 1Ch. 28:4) and descended from King David himself (2Sam. 7:12-13, Isa. 9:6-7, Jer. 23:5-6). That is why the Messiah is called Son of David (Matt. 21:9).

Yeshua is from the Tribe of Judah (Heb. 7:14). His earthly father was descended from David (Matt. 1:6-16) and His mother was as well (Luke 1:27, 32-34, 3:23-31).

In addition, Yeshua was born King of the Jews (Matt. 2:2). The King of the Jews must Himself be Jewish (Deut. 17:15). His aunt Elizabeth was Jewish (a descendant of Aaron, Moses’ brother) and His uncle Zacharia was a Jewish priest (Luke 1:5, 36). Yeshua was circumcised according to Jewish law (Luke 2:21, Lev. 12:2-3), and redeemed according to Jewish law (Luke 2:22-23, Num. 18:15). His mother atoned according to Jewish law (Luke 2:24, Lev. 12:6-8). He is called The Consolation of Israel (Luke 2:25) and The Glory of Thy People Israel (Luke 2:32). Jesus was born a Jew.

Yeshua lived as a Jew

Although He was born in Bethlehem (Matt. 2:1, Micah 5:2), Yeshua was raised in Nazareth (Luke 2:39-40). Both were Jewish towns at the time, according to archeologists and historians. Bethlehem is just south of Jerusalem while Nazareth is north, in the Galilee section. Both of Yeshua’s parents were from Nazareth (Luke 1:26-27, 2:4, 39) and they returned there with the Child when they had done everything according to the Law of the Lord that His birth required (Luke 2:39). His aunt and uncle were also Torah observant Jews (Luke 1:6) so we can see that probably the whole family took their faith very seriously.

Yeshua’s parents made the 140 mile (225 m.) round trip to Jerusalem every Passover (Luke 2:41) in observance of Deut. 16:16. It was at the age of twelve that Yeshua stayed behind an extra three days to learn from the Temple teachers (Luke 2:46). Although He already understood the Torah well (Luke 2:47), His attitude of listening and questioning indicates love of the Hebrew scripture and respect for the teachers. He also respected the Temple itself, calling it His Father’s (Luke 2:49). Near the end of His life, He praised a widow for giving all she had to the Temple (Luke 21:1-4).

In adult life, His disciples were Jews (John 1:47, Matt. 20:25-26) and they called Him ‘Rabbi’ (John 4:31). Mary called Him ‘Rabboni’ (John 20:16). They sought Him because they believed the Torah and the Prophets (John 1:45).

A Pharisee who had not yet come to faith in Him also addressed Yeshua as ‘Rabbi’ (John 3:2), as did a crowd of people (John 6:25). A Samaritan woman easily recognized He was a Jew (John 4:9).

Yeshua’s disciples spoke Hebrew (John 1:38, 41) and so did He, as well as Chaldean, a closely-related language brought back by the Jews from their captivity in Babylon (Matt. 27:46). In the sermon on the mount He affirmed the authority of the Torah and the Prophets (Matt. 5:17) even in the Kingdom of Heaven (Matt. 5:19-20). He regularly attended synagogue (Luke 4:16) and His teaching was respected by the other congregants (Luke 4:15). He taught in the Jewish Temple (Luke 21:37) and if He were not a Jew, His going into that part of the Temple would not have been allowed (Acts 21:28-30).

Although He differed with some of His contemporaries on how to keep the commandments (Matt. 12:12), He did not disagree on whether to keep them, saying such things as, “if you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments,” (Matt. 19:17). When He healed someone of leprosy, he instructed him to, “show yourself to the priest and present the offering that Moses commanded…” (Matt. 8:4, Lev. 14).

Yeshua not only taught others how to live a Jewish life, He lived it Himself. The outward signs of this were such things as wearing tzitzit (tassles) on His clothing (Luke 8:43, Matt. 14:36, Strong’s # 2899) to serve as a reminder of the commandments (Num. 15:37-39). He observed Passover (John 2:13) and went up to Jerusalem (Deut. 16:16). He observed Succot (John 7:2, 10) and went up to Jerusalem (John 7:14). He also observed Hanukah (John 10:22) and probably Rosh haShanah (John 5:1), going up to Jerusalem on both those occasions as well, even though it isn’t commanded in the Torah.

The inward sign of His Judaism was a circumcised heart (Deut. 10:16, 30:6).

When faced with temptation, Yeshua answered from the Hebrew Scripture (Matt. 4:2-10, Deut. 8:3, 6:16, 6:13). When teaching, He taught from the Hebrew Scripture (Matt. 22:42-45). When admonishing, He quoted from the Hebrew Scripture (Mk. 7:6-13).

Yeshua self-identified as a Jew (John 4:22) and as King of the Jews (Mk. 15:2). From His birth to His last Passover seder (Luke 22:14-15), Jesus lived as a Jew.

Also –

 

Yeshua died a Jew

When Yeshua was taken prisoner by a Roman captain, his cohort, and some Jewish officials (John 18:12), He was delivered into the custody of the Jewish priests, elders, and scribes (Mk. 14:53). The Roman soldiers would not have placed Him under Jewish jurisdiction if He were not Jewish.

Later, Yeshua was brought before the Sanhedrin, the Jewish council (Luke 22:66). He was charged with an offense against Jewish Law (Matt. 26:65-66, Lev. 24:13-14, John 19:7). Pilate, head of the Roman occupation, also recognized Jewish jurisdiction over Yeshua (John 18:31). This was because Yeshua was a Jew (John 18:35).

He unequivocally identified Himself as the Messiah (Mk. 14:61-62) and as we have seen above, the Messiah must be Jewish. He said He is the King of the Jews (Matt. 27:11) and, as we have also seen above, the King of the Jews must Himself be Jewish. The Jewish crowd also called Him ‘King of the Jews’ (Mk. 15:12). He was mocked, spat on and beaten by the Roman soldiers as ‘King of the Jews’ (Mk. 15:16-20) and when they crucified Him, their charge was ‘King of the Jews’ (Matt. 27:37).

The place of judgment had a Hebrew place-name (John 19:13) and the place of crucifixion had a Hebrew place-name (Mk. 15:22).

Joseph of Arimethea, who took custody of Yeshua’s body, was Jewish (Luke 23:50-52) and he laid the body in his own new tomb (Matt. 27:59-60). Therefore, Yeshua was buried in a Jewish cemetery. He was also buried according to Jewish custom of the time (John 19:40). Without doubt, Jesus died a Jew.

If Jesus wasn’t Jewish, the Romans would have not handed Him over to the Jews. Romans take care of their own law breakers. Jesus being Jewish, could only be charged by a Jewish council and by Jewish law. Anyone with just a little Biblical education knows this!

Contrary to the prevailing view that the Jesus was a Jew, virtually every page of the New Testament contains vehement denunciations of their religion, which Jesus calls the “tradition of the elders.” (Matt. 15:2, 3, 6) He also denounces their religion as not of God, but of the “tradition of men.” (Mark 7:3, 5, 8, 9, 13 and Col. 2:8) The truth is that Jesus was the antithesis of Judaism, because they taught not the Law of the Old Testament but THEIR OWN TRADITION, which was not of God. These traditions, over time, were written down and are today known as the Babylonian Talmud. The Babylonian Talmud has always been the main doctrine of the Jews, never the Torah of the Old Testament.

LOL, yes Jesus did speak out against Jews who followed the man-made teaching of the Talmud, a religion they stole from the pagan Babylonians lol. But that doesn’t prove Jesus to be non-Jewish lol.

I could keep going but as you can tell, another Christian Identity nut-job loses a debate!

Jay Faber – lacks education lol

Posted in Arabs, Christianity, cults, Hate, Israel, Israeli, Jewish History, Middle East, racism, Religion, Uncategorized, War with tags , , , , , on March 26, 2009 by Michael Burks

(Faber is on the right, trying hard to look like the lead singer of a 1980’s metal hair band)

 

I was reading a “sermon” that “pastor-halfwit” Faber wrote dealing with Esau-Edom. And all I kept thinking was, “this guy is stupid.” The reason I say this is because nothing he stated in the “sermon” can be backed with facts

His “sermon” can be found here, http://www.aryannationsrevival.org/Esau-Edom.htm. If you have time, or are bored, please take the time to read his nonsense. Its enough to bore one to death. I know I read about three paragraphs and stopped. Mainly because I found tons of facts that history shows the opposite of.

To make a long story short, he like most Identity “preachers” claim that modern Jews are the children of Esau through his marriage with Canaanite wives. Of course he fails to mention or recall that Edom was destroyed years ago. Faber and others claims the prophecy of Obadiah are not yet fulfilled. This however is wrong. The Edom nation was destroyed.

Here is the truth, as the Bible explains http://thomaswilliamson.net/edom.htm

Edom, a nation consisting of the descendants of Esau, twin brother of Jacob and son of Isaac and Rebekah, was located to the southeast of Judah, in a rugged, mountainous region which is now the southwestern part of the kingdom of Jordan.

      Edom is sometimes referred to as Esau (Malachi 1:3), Idumea (Isaiah 34:5) and Mount Seir (Ezekiel 35:3).  All of these names are interchangeable, referring to the same nation, Edom.

      Genesis 36 describes the rapid growth of Edom.  Deuteronomy 2:5 informs us that Edom’s territory was not part of the land promised to Israel andnever would be: “Meddle not with them; for I will not give you of their land, no, not so much as a foot breadth; because I have given mount Seir unto Esau for a possession.”

      Ezekiel condemned the nation of Edom, saying, “Thou hast had a perpetual hatred, and hast shed the blood of the children of Israel by the force of the sword in the time of their calamity . . .” Ezekiel 35:5.

      Throughout ancient history, the Edomites manifested their hatred against the Hebrews, as shown by their refusing Moses and his people permission to pass through Edomite territory in Numbers 20:14-22.  However, in the time of Elisha, the Edomitesjoined in a military alliance with Israel and Judah, 2 Kings 3:9.  Later, Judah defeated Edom in war, 2 Chronicles 25:5-12.

      The major prophecies against Edomare found in Isaiah 34, Jeremiah 49:7-22, Ezekiel 25:12-14 and 35:1-15, and the book of Obadiah.

      Isaiah prophesied of God’s judgment against Edom about 700 BC, while Jeremiah, Ezekiel and Obadiah all delivered their prophecies of impending doom upon Edom around the year 600 BC.

      It would make sense to look for the fulfillment of these prophecies against Edom in that general time period of history.  However, some have proposed that these prophecies against Edom are still unfulfilled, and that their fulfillment will take place in our generation, in the early 21st Century AD.

      There are 2 big problems with this theory: 1. The Edomites no longer exist.  It is impossible to punish a people who  have already disappeared from the face of the earth many centuries ago.  2. The prophet Malachi, writing about 400 BC, speaks of  God’s judgment of Edom as having already taken place: “And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.”  (Malachi 1:3)

      History records that the Edomites were ravaged by the Babylonian armies in the early 6th Century BC, and that near the end of the 6th Century BC, the Nabateans attacked the Edomites, driving them from their mountain fortresses of Mount Seir, into the Negev Desert to the west. 

      The ancient prophecies against Edom were completely fulfilled, and there is no need to look for those prophecies to be fulfilled yet again today, especially since the Edomites no longer exist as an identifiable nation or ethnic group.

      Some will say, “Are not the Arabs Edomites, and does not the ‘Curse of Esau’ rest upon modern Arabs?”  Though the identification of Edom with the Arabs is a common traditional belief, there is absolutely no Scriptural or historical basis for this notion.

      The Arabians are often mentioned in the Old Testament, as a nation totally distinct from the Edomites.  For instance, the Chronicler mentions Edom in 2 Chronicles 8:17 and Arabia in 2 Chronicles 9:14.  The Edomites were not Arabs – they were Edomites. 

      Obadiah prophesied that the house of Esau would be completely wiped out (v. 18).  If he was talking about the Arabs, then Obadiah’s prophecy was false, since the Arabs are very much with us today.  If Obadiah was talking about Edom, like he said that he was (v.8), then his prophecy has been fulfilled, since Edom has longed since disappeared as a nation.

      An examination of the standard reference works yields no hint nor evidence of any connection between Edomites and Arabs.

      If the Edomitesare not Arabs, then what did happen to them?  We find the answer to that in the “Antiquities of the Jews” by the reliable ancient Jewish historian Josephus, writing of Jewish conquests in the 2nd Century BC:

      “Hyrcanus took also Dora and Marissa, cities of Idumea, and subdued all the Idumeans; and permitted them to stay in that country, if they would circumcise their genitals, and make use of the laws of the Jews; and they were so desirous of living in the country of their forefathers, that they submitted to the use of circumcision, and the rest of the Jewish ways of living; at which time therefore this befell them, that they were hereafter no other than Jews.” Chapter IX, (2).

      William Whiston, translator of Josephus, adds this note: “This account of the Idumeans admitting circumcision, and the entire Jewish law, from this time, or from the days of Hyrcanus, is confirmed by their entire history afterwards.  This, in the opinion of Josephus, made them proselytes of justice, or entire Jews.”  Since that time, the Edomites have been part of the Jewish nation.  Some believe that the Edomites are still identifiable today as Sephardic Jews, but this is speculation.

      The Wycliffe Bible Commentary on Obadiah confirms that judgment came upon Edomin ancient times, starting with the Nabatean invasion soon after the time of Obadiah:

      “Soon after this time, Edom was pushed out of her ancient home by the Nabateans, so that she had to move to the west side of the Dead Sea.  Hebron was made the capital of her new home in south Judah.  The Maccabees, especially John Hyrcanus (c. 125 BC), subdued and Judaized the Edomites.  They were finally destroyed with the Jews in 70 AD by the Roman general Titus.”

      (According to the Catholic Encyclopedia, this conquest of the Edomites by John Hyrcanus took place in 109 BC).

      Adam Clarke’s commentary, Matthew Henry, and Jamieson, Fausset and Brown all see the prophecies against Edom as being fulfilled partly by an invasion by the Babylonian king Nebuchadnezzar in the early 6th Century BC, and partly by the Maccabees.  Jeremiah 25:21 specifically predicts the humbling of Edom by Babylon, the same power that conquered Jerusalem 5 years before the destruction of Edom.

      Some commentators believe that some of the early prophecies of judgment against Edom were fulfilled by the invasion of the Assyrian king Sennacherib, about 700 BC.  There is no hint anywhere that any of these prophecies against Edom remain to be fulfilled in modern times, or that they can be applied to the current crises in the Middle East. 

      Some have thought that there will never be peace between the Jews and Arabs in Palestine, based on the statement of Ezekiel 35:5: “Because thou hast had a perpetual hatred, and hast shed the blood of the children of Israel by the force of the sword in the time of their calamity. . . .”

          However, we have seen that this passage concerning Edomhas nothing whatsoever to do with the Arabs, ancient or modern.  Scripture and secular history reveal no information about an inevitable hatred between Arabs and Jews over the centuries. 

      Over the centuries, Jews and Arabs have lived in harmony in the Middle East.  On various occasions, Jews have fled to Arab and Muslim lands to escape persecution by the supposedly more enlightened European “Christians.”   

      The current strife between Jews and Arabs in Palestine did not begin until the early 20th Century, with the rise of the modern Zionist movement.

      In my home city of Chicago, large communities of Jews and Arabs live side by side in a state of harmony.  In November, 2000, many Jews in Chicago joined with Palestinian Arabs in peaceful demonstrations to protest Israeli government policies in occupied territories of Palestine.

      We have no way of knowing whether there will soon be peace between the Jews and Arabs in Palestine, but there is nothing in the Word of God to indicate that such a peace cannot take place.

      The prophecies of Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel and Obadiah against Edom should not be wrenched out of their proper historical context, andmade to apply to modern peoples who have no connection with Edom.

      The purpose of these prophecies was to assure the Hebrews, at the time that they were taken captive to Babylon in 586 BC, that Jehovah would not allow the covetous Edomites to occupy their land.  God promised that the land of Judah would remain vacant, and that the nation of Israel would be restored on that land after 70 years (Jeremiah 25:11, 29:10, Daniel 9:2).

      The application of those prophecies for today is that we should not be prideful as the Edomiteswere, believing that they were safe from God’s wrath and could never be overthrown in their mountain fortresses.  Also, we should not be covetous as Edom was, nor rejoice when judgment and suffering comes upon others.

          The fate of Edom, and its complete disappearance from the family of nations, constitute a powerful reminder of God’s justice, His judgment, and the sure fulfillment of all that He has promised in His inspired Word.

 As you can tell, the destruction of Edom has already  been fulfilled as God said it would. Faber and others never quote the above verses nor talk about actual history concerning the Bible.

Yes, some people who were Edomites converted to Judaism and became Jews. However, that does not in any way back Faber and his claims. Faber lacks a Biblical education which was easily proved. His teachings are ones he clearly made up due to his hatred of Jews and lack of common sense.